God does or does not exist – The choice is yours!

God does or does not exist – The choice is yours!

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Professor John Lennox begins by declaring himself as a believer in God. He says he’s not ashamed of being both a scientist and a Christian but is tired of the constant choice being put forth to chose either God or Science.
The motivating force behind science is that the universe and the human mind ultimately stem from the same intelligent divine mind.
He goes on to say that science can find answers to almost everything in the universe apart from why it was made; only god can reveal that piece of information to us. The proof for the existence of god comes in the form of Jesus Christ, God in human form. Therefore god isn’t a theory he’s a person.

Dan Barker says that he used to be a firm believer in the gospel. He was evangelical. He tells of parables and fables whose story is meant to be fictional but the moral tale is what matters. He goes on to highlight that modern day Christians understand the use of metaphors in the Bible that everything should not be taken as pure gospel, but says where do we draw the line between what is real and what is myth?

Following this he states there is no hard evidence for god, that some tales in the bible can be questioned with simple logic. Also religions become secular over time, disagreeing on minor aspects within the larger body of the religion itself.
Filmed on Thursday 8th November 2012

ABOUT DAN BARKER:
Co-President of Freedom From Religion Foundation, and co-host of Freethought Radio.

ABOUT PROFESSOR JOHN LENNOX:
Professor of Mathematics & Philosophy at Oxford.

Dr Michael Shermer begins by saying that 84% of the world’s population believe in some kind of organised religion and how do those who believe in a particular religion know that they have chosen the right one and everyone else has got it wrong?

He proceeds to explain two pieces of evidence that proves that humans made up God and religion and not the other way around. He starts with evolutionary theory saying that we are all descendants from cautious creatures who creator false positive rather than false negatives.
The creation of an agency (an omnipotent being) within a religion is a powerful force of social control. Then the second line of evidence is the what ever social environment were born into we would be exposed to the dominant religion in that environment i.e. India — Hinduism, Europe — Christianity.

Peter Hitchens opens by stating that he hates this argument. He says that the opposition reminds him of his adolescent self, the worst person he ever knew. This debate is not serious, it’s a matter of opinion and thereby a matter of choice. The question, he says, that should be discussed is why we choose what we choose?
Quotes Thomas Nagel, in his opinion the most intelligent atheist living today, “why is it that me and my fellow atheists want so much for they’re not to be a god?”

Based on the knowledge we have, we construct a belief that helps us to discover what we ought to do and how we ought to live and if our actions have significance beyond what we immediately do.
He says that the atheists know that if everyone didn’t believe in God there would be a lawless society in which we cannot trust people not to lie, cheat, steal or rape. Without the advantages of Christianity we would lose all faith in people doing the right thing.

ABOUT Dr MICHAEL SHERMER:
Author and Founder of the Skeptics Society.

ABOUT PETER HITCHENS:
Author and former atheist now a member of Church of England.